in the retelling of it..I answered a question and this was the answers and I thought it was worth asking people what they think of what I have writtten. It is time consuming to read , but It think worthwhile... If you want to read about the voters I met on Nov 2nd 2004 in the rain, in lines up to 13 hours, risking health and job loss to vote, then you will read this. Every American should read this. Just in the retelling of it, I found my eyes fill with tears. It is first hand knowledge of what happened here in Ohio in 2004 by a voting rights advocate. Many do not vote because they do not think their vote is counted. Currently over 75% of democrats, 50% of independents, and 25% of Republicans believe this. Much of this is because of the massive vote fraud in 2000 and especially here in Ohio.. WE TRIED HERE IN OHIO..there were record turnouts...We took to the streets in record numbers and registered 10 times more democrats than republicans..I spoke to people as I worked the polls who had never voted or never voted for 15 or 20 years who turned out. As fast as we could register them Blackwell, our Katherine Harris secretary of state and co chair of the reelect Bush campaign, was ordering boards of elections (BOE) to throw away those registrations..for being on the wrong weight of paper, etc . While our Franklin County (Columbus, Ohio) head of the BOE and former head of the franklin county republican party was colluding to take away many machines in all the democratic areas and add more to the republican areas and hiding over 75 machines in storage while machines were breaking and one precinct had zero machines working, we turned out in numbers they’d never seen before. We waited in lines up to 13 hours to vote..in the freezing rain with winds so strong they blew up umbrella inside out repeatedly and blew away my chair.. We handed out free food and trashbags and drinks and brought chairs..We encouraged each other to wait in line despite angry bosses, crying kids, and saw elderly people showing up with IVs from the hospital and older people on chemotherapy waiting in line three hours and passing out and not getting to vote, People were passing out literally. Kids were crying from hunger and boredom. We saw our young working the streets and participating and our old suffering in 5 hour lines... We saw the poor and minorities, who had so much to lose voting and working hard and breaking all the stereotypes, we saw the patriot poor and minorities and college students have their votes suppressed and witnessed their votes not counting. We saw crying people forced to leave the lines or lose their job or to pick up their kids who didn't get to vote after waiting three hours. We saw people like myself, a disabled women on her feet 15 hours the night before , campaigning and waiting outside helping and handing out literature all day and night in the freezing rain and wind. We saw the same people standing outside in freezing winter of 04 and early 05 in winds 50 MPH shivering and protesting our stolen election and the mass voter suppression and the machines that are so insecure. These are Americans..these are patriots. These are the finest people you could ever meet. These are Americans patriots....who I am so proud of. We saw people wait in line 2 hours, be told them were in the wrong line or precinct go and wait 2 hours again or be purged from the roles after living in the same house 50 years (Like Amos Caley), We saw people being sent to three precincts and still having to vote provisional. We saw thousands leave the lines without voting due to parenting and work commitments. We saw people show up angry and crying at voter hearings after the election. I see every week people in Ohio still fighting to fix the vote..just two days ago Bev Harris of blackboxvoting came to our city and next week we are having a 3 day vote fraud conference. We continue to work hard, offering our time and talents to this issue. You here about and think about the apathetic, but do not forget those who do care..there are far more of them than it seems. I saw the heart and soul of America that Nov 2nd 2004 be deprived and stolen of the right to vote..the right won by the blood of others. The fight our troops have died for. And it all makes me very angry. How many of these people will never vote again because of what happened? And that’s just fine with those pulling the strings and stealing the elections...just makes it that much easier to steal the elections covertly. See the film coming to HBO "hacking Democracy" Nov 2nd. Go to freepress.org and read the election section here at ground zero http://www.wakeupandsaveyourcountry.com/... __just came out comic of what happened here..I am in the book even..see the links http://freepress.org/images/departments/... http://freepress.org/images/departments/... Read the actual transcript from the voters in Ohio and the poll workers as to what they experienced that day..I was there too...fascinating and known to just a few..these people led to the 2nd ever historic election challenge in US congress in 228 years on Jan. 6TH...REALLY INTERESTING STUFF..I was in DC too on that historic day–on the winter freedom bus from Ohio to Washington. We stood with all races, religions, and with representatives of all states.. Research and call your congressmen and ask them to cosign and support the new amendment Dennis Kucinich just made HB 6200 to conduct all presential elections on hand counted at the precinct paper ballots..this is the only way top restore our democrcy and voter confidence. We should not have 80% of the vote being counted by partisa companies donating hundred s of thousands of dollars to reelect Bush and keeping their sourcecode and software secret. Just writing about what I experienced and witnerssing what we did to these voters makes me cry for them and for all the blood slipped in vain. Sorry links did not work http://www.wakeupandsaveyourcountry.com/cheated.htm http://freepress.org/images/departments/4254PublicHearing.txt http://freepress.org/images/departments/4263PublicHearing.txt EDIT to last poster MUSE Obviously you don't read..the Columbus dispatch had numberous articles on the lines, the problems reported with machines like Gahanna, Ohio getting 4000 more vote (for Bush) than they were voters, and working machines held in storage. If you had no lines, you were appently from a suburb, rural, weathy area, not black, not a stuent, and not poor. Repubulicans cannot change history this time we have cameras of the lines..and the voter supprression (I am not even getting into the 57,000 voting irregularites reported acroos the country). Here is a video of some of the many lines. http://video.yahoo.com/video/play?ei=UTF-8&p=video+the+vote&b=0&oid=be67c613fc9339e0&rurl=www.michaelmoore.com&vdone=http%3A%2F%2Fvideo.yahoo.com%2Fsearch%2Fvideo%3Fei%3DUTF-8%26p%3Dvideo%2Bthe%2Bvote and go here to read the congressional report "what went wrong in Ohio" of things proven to have taken palce. Why do you think we had the historic electuion challenge in congress on Jan 6th, the 2nd in 228 years. go here and click on 5th hit for the official record at gov. It won't let me paste and copy the link http://search.yahoo.com/search?ei=utf-8&fr=slv8-msgr&p=john%20conyers%20what%20went%20wrong%20in%20ohio Evidence is everywhere...you just have to look. A place to start is in some of the links I gave and at and http://freepress.org/ http://fairnessbybeckerman.blogspot.com/ leogirl..you are a disgusting person..I won't stoop to calling you names like you called me, but one thing I am not is a liar and I experienced the long lines first hand, people I trust saw people fainting on chemo, people did show up with IV's from the hospital, testify under sworn oath etc, I also first hand witnessed people freezing proteasting, heard 500 sworn tstamonies tsaken by lawyers and used in the Moss v Bush lawsuit. It was reported in Ohio newspapers (the republican one all the "glitches like Gahanna getting 4000 more votes (for Bush) than there were voters, about Blackwell ordering all county BOE's to throw out voter registration if it wasn't on 40 weight paper (an law over 70 years old and never used), etc. It was reported on national TV early election morning (in the 2 am range that there were still voters in line in an Ohio liberal college. These things are all first hand and most have been reported although not widely repotrted. I waas there. I am, a Christian and I almost never lie and certainly am not lying. You, first poster woman, obviousdly did not read the post like most just skimming it seeing a liberal wrote it and instantly dismissing it..no wonder you guys are sheep.